Ask HN: How to become good at Emacs/Vim?

I've tried switching from IDEs like VSCode to Emacs (with evil mode) a few times now, but I always gave up after a while because my productivity decreases. Even after 1-2 weeks it's still not close to what it was with VScode. That's frustrating. But when I watch proficient people using these editors I'm always amazed at what they can do, and they appear more productive than I am with VSCode. So with enough effort it should be a worthwhile investment.

I think my problem is the lack of a structured guide/tutorial focused on real-world project usage. I can do all basic operations, but I'm probably doing them in an inefficient way, which ends up being slower than a GUI. But I don't know what I don't know, so I don't know what commands and keybindings I should use instead or what my options are.

How did you become good at using these editors? Just using them doesn't really work because by myself I'd never discover most of the features and keybindings.

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